![]() He doesn’t really know how she actually is. Many of us, we have that worry that - scared that we might hear that our mom passed away. They talk on the phone nearly every day, but it’s clear that she’s not being honest with him, and he can’t really be fully honest with her. ferkat jawdatĮven though I can talk to my mom almost every single day right now, I don’t know if I was able to get any news about my mom’s condition. Over the last few months, Ferkat’s been growing increasingly anxious about how his mother is doing. Yeah, too many things happened, but still here. ![]() So yeah, how are you holding up? I know it was kind of a hard, hard week last week. paul mozurĪnd I called him again last week, because I wanted to talk to him about a decision he made to do something extremely risky in order to save his mother. So that’s the world she’s living in at this moment. When she came home, Ferkat actually thought she might be on her deathbed. And meanwhile, her health deteriorated severely in the camps. They’re monitoring what she says, so she has to parrot this sort of propaganda. You have local government officials and police checking in on her on a daily basis when she talks to her family. There’s cameras and checkpoints just outside. Right, so she’s in her house, but she’s being monitored at all times. Right, I remember after we published that first episode about Ferkat’s mother, the Chinese government made a show of releasing her from the camp and letting her go to her house. Then he’s able to talk to her for the first time in more than a year and a half. And then after we talked to him, we put out a show earlier this year, and a week later, his mother all of a sudden appears. michael barbaroĪnd it’s been quite a ride, because when we first talked to him, he had no idea where his mother was, and he hadn’t seen her for more than a year. ![]() And it turns out she falls into the system of repression, and is pulled into the re-education camps there. But his mother was not able to follow them, and about two years ago, Ferkat’s mother goes missing. Ferkat is one of those, and Ferkat has kind of emerged as an important voice in the United States, trying to raise awareness and talk about what happened, because he and his family got out around 2011. Many have fled the country to other places, like the United States. They see them as an extremist presence in the country, and they have built this extensive system of repression that includes electronic surveillance and also a massive system of camps, where more than a million people have been locked up. And the Uighurs are a Muslim minority that the Chinese government views as a threat, in part because of their Islam. So Ferkat Jawdat is from a Uighur family who live in western China, in a place called Xinjiang. Remind us who Ferkat Jawdat is and what we know about his family. So, Paul, we have been checking in with you about your reporting on the Uighurs in China for about a year, and we’ve been talking to you about one family in particular. Today, we hear from the mother herself for the first time. This is “The Daily.”įor the past year, my colleague Paul Mozur has been investigating the story of a son determined to free his mother from a repressive system of detention and surveillance in western China. T06:00:15-05:00 michael barbaroįrom The New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. ![]() How our correspondent found a crack in China’s surveillance state - and a woman on her deathbed in Xinjiang. Davis Lin A last-minute booking, a furtive cab ride and a spy in the window. Transcript A Woman’s Journey Through China’s Detention Camps Hosted by Michael Barbaro, produced by Annie Brown, Jonathan Wolfe, Alexandra Leigh Young and Jazmín Aguilera, and edited by Theo Balcomb and M.J.
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